Proverbs 8:24-25 & 30

Is Proverbs 8:24-25 & 30 about Jesus or wisdom?

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Is Proverbs 8 About Jesus?

Is Proverbs 8 About Jesus?Here is how to refute the Jehovah's Witnesses' false claim that the speaker in Proverbs 8 is Jesus to try to support their heresy that Jesus is not the Creator but a creature, who was then used to create the earth.

Jehovah's Witness - But Jesus said in Proverbs 8:24 and 25, "I was brought forth" before the earth was created, and said in Proverbs 8:30 that he is the "master worker" whom God used to create the earth.

Christian - Proverbs is a book of instructions on wisdom written mostly by Solomon, who famously asked God to give him "wisdom" (1 Chronicles 1:10) and received it; most of the 31 Proverbs specifically mention "wisdom." Proverbs is also set in Hebrew poetry, and for poetic vividness, wisdom is personified - ie. depicted as if it were a person - in Proverbs 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9. For example, Proverbs 1:20 says, "Wisdom calls aloud outside; she raises her voice in the open squares." Could you please google "Proverbs 1:20 biblehub interlinear" and click on the first search result?
Jehovah's Witness - Ok, I did. (He won't say he wants to use the Jehovah's Witnesses' Kingdom Interlinear since it only covers the Greek in the New Testament, not the Hebrew in the Old Testament.)

Christian - Hebrew is read from right to left. What do the last two words mean when you read them from right to left?
Jehovah's Witness - "She raises her voice" (from this page, copied below).

Is Proverbs 8 About Jesus?

Christian - Do you see the "3fs" designation below both of those two Hebrew words?
Jehovah's Witness - Yes.

Christian - Please hover the cursor over them. What does that designation mean?
Jehovah's Witness - "Third person feminine singular" (underlined in red above).

Christian - And that is why, as you can see in this page, all English Bibles translate these two words with the third person feminine singular pronouns "She" and "her." The only exception is the New World Translation, which, because calling wisdom "she" and "her" would make it difficult to claim that wisdom is Jesus, changed "she" to "it" and "her" to "its," hoping that nobody would notice. But there is another word that they couldn't change as it would have been too noticeable. Could you please read Proverbs 7:4 in your translation?
Jehovah's Witness - "Say to wisdom, 'You are my sister,' and call understanding 'my relative.' "

Christian - "Sister" is someone who is a female, isn't she?
Jehovah's Witness - Of course.

Christian - Does the Bible ever identify Jesus as someone who is a female?
Jehovah's Witness - Of course not.

Christian - So is this "wisdom," who is being called a "sister," "she," and "her," referring to Jesus?
Jehovah's Witness - Of course not.

Christian - You quoted from Proverbs 8:24, 25 and 30. Could you please scroll up that Proverb - Proverbs 8 - and read the first two words of Proverbs 8:12 so that we can identify who is saying the words you quoted?
Jehovah's Witness - "I, wisdom."

Christian - So the words you quoted are simply saying that God created the earth with wisdom, which is nothing new since it was already declared earlier in Proverbs. Could you please read the first sentence in Proverbs 3:19 in your translation?
Jehovah's Witness - "Jehovah founded the earth in wisdom."

Christian - Do you now see that the "wisdom" in Proverbs 8 is what it says - wisdom - and not Jesus?
Jehovah's Witness - Yes.

Christian - Now, when they taught you that Proverbs 8 is about Jesus, did you read Proverbs to verify that for yourself or did you simply accept their teaching?
Jehovah's Witness - I simply accepted it.

Christian - Going forward, should you simply believe whatever they tell you to believe, or should you verify what they tell you to believe by reading for yourself what the Bible, especially the original text of the Bible, says?
Jehovah's Witness - I should verify it in the Bible.

Christian - And since one of the things they told you to believe is false, would it be wise to verify the other things they have told you to believe over the years?
Jehovah's Witness - I guess so.